Red Fox Squirrel?

[BigFlatBrook]

The Whitlock Red Fox Squirrel nymph is listed as a standard in a lot of places, including Dave Hughes' Trout Flies. But the material doesn't seem to be that easy to obtain. I've never seen it locally, and an internet search only turned up a few places -- none that I've traded with before.

On the other hand, the colors in the photographs seem to approximate an GRHE nymph.

I claim that you could tie a Fox Squirrel nymph with hare's mask dubbing, and that there's no reason to carry both flies.

Am I right about that?

[millerwb]

Send me your address and I will send you a piece of skin, dried of course. It will have both types of hair needed for the fly.

[RonMT]

Nope different colors all together. Ron

[Hans Weilenmann]

Here is a Dave Whitlock tied Red Fox Squirrel nymph



Hardly a GRHE coloration...

Cheers,
Hans W


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[This message has been edited by Hans Weilenmann (edited 15 March 2005).]

[Mark Vendon]

Hi BigFlatBrook,

Aside from the nice offer by millerwb, if you need any more, check out Feather-Craft.com . They have the antron/dubbing combination specifically for that nymph for a limited time. Just scroll down at this link to view it. I've had really good service from them too! [url=http://www.feather-craft.com/2005MAster/fcpage.asp?page=74:dd278]http://www.feather-craft.com/2005MAster/fcpage.asp?page=74[/url:dd278]


Regards,

Mark

[Grubb]

Hey if'in ya wanna order your own...

[url=http://www.flytyingfurs.com/:bbeaa]http://www.flytyingfurs.com/[/url:bbeaa]

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[This message has been edited by Grubb (edited 15 March 2005).]

Dave Whitlock, showed me how to tie his Red Fox Squirrel Nymph. Interesting note, Dave does not have a threaded head on his pattern (beaded or regular), nor does he use a normal whip finish tool. Dave uses the Red squirrel tail hair for the tail of the nymph, the Red body hair for the abdomen on the nymph, and the brown body hair for the Thorax and Head.

After securing the Thorax tie-off using a half hitch lock, he dubs more of the Brown body hair onto the thread, and wraps the dubbed thread onto the hook, with a spare loop of thread beneath the wraps. Once the hook is wrapped a couple of turns, the line is pinched (to keep tension), then cut. The tag end of the thread is slipped through the loop, and the looped thread is pulled out from under the wrap, creating a whip finish.

Tying Tips has an article that better explains the concept...

[url=http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/tyingtips/part174.html:b8a1d]http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/tyingtips/part174.html[/url:b8a1d]

~Parnelli

[This message has been edited by Steven H. McGarthwaite (edited 15 March 2005).]

[BigFlatBrook]

I've taken up millerwb on his generous offer. I will be looking for an opportunity to do a similar favor for millerwb or someone else.

I've also bookmarked those links for future reference. It was a pleasure being corrected. Thanks!

[ScottP]

I was fishing on Duck Lake in Montana one time when a b.h. red fox nymph was THE fly. I didn't have any and didn't have the official materials to tie them, either. I substituted amber/orangish rabbit/antron for the abdomen and dark hare's ear for the thorax - the fish seemed to like it just as well as the "real" thing. If you really have to have the squirrel, I'd second the vote for Feather-Craft, or check on E-Bay.

Regards,
ScottP

[eaustin]

Don't agree that it's the same fly. Ken Schwartzhoff had a zillion or so of these skins last I knew at [url=http://www.flytyingfurs.com/:3ad3b]http://www.flytyingfurs.com/[/url:3ad3b] , which is Coffin Creek furs. Dirt cheap too.
Eric