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    When I think about it, (always dangerous), you start tying in deer hair with two loose wraps. That puts slack "upstream" of the hair.

    Spinning the whole hair bunch tightens this slack one circumference.

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    I've been trying this one all morning...TL makes it look so simple!! NOT! I played and re-re-played the demo and I'm amazed at how crummy/messy my ties turn out.

    That herl hint is wonderful!

    I just may have to let this one go...but they make it look soooo easy.

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    Try it without the spin. Just tie in like a regular Elk Hair Caddis, then pull the two sides apart, then x-wrap. Experiment with how you x-wrap. Some sequences may work better for you.

    If x-wrapping is a bust, try it with no x-wrap. Just pull half the wing to each side. It does not have to be perfect. Just get most of the wing out to the sides. A bit on top won't hurt and will make the fly more visible on the water. You'll need glue to hold the hair this way.

    Also, hair that flares a lot will help with this pattern.

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    Jeremy,
    For what it might be worth. If the hook shank is bare or nearly bare, hair will have a natural tendency to spin or rotate around the shank. If you have thread or dubbing at the tie-in point, the hair will better maintain its position and flare rather than spinning. In the pattern shown in the video a bare or near-bare hook tie-in point will allow the flared hair to rotate more easily.

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    Thanks gents, I'll give this another try given the suggestions.

    What you don't know is that I was born with "3 thumbs" - two on the left that usually get in the way!

    Also my flies need to be small as in #16 max. otherwise they get refused big-time. Always fun...

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    I also wonder when you see these well produced videos that every turn of thread goes into exactly the right place, how many takes do they do? For my own fly tying ego, I hope it takes more than a few.....

    Joe

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    My fly tying ego died with digital photography. When my half inch fly gets magnified 10x on screen, all those flaws jump out at me. I can't not see them.

    I'm awed by the great tiers on this forum.

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    One week later, Tim is back to the standard way of attaching hair wings. He even uses the help of super glue to keep them from spinning around the shank, which I have had to do for years.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAUdfwl-bU4

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Billingsley View Post
    One week later, Tim is back to the standard way of attaching hair wings. He even uses the help of super glue to keep them from spinning around the shank, which I have had to do for years.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAUdfwl-bU4

    Joe
    Thanks Joe. I've given this one up myself as messy flies catch the most fish and I don't have trouble tying messy flies, even w/o this guy.

    Jeremy.

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    That basic design has been around for quite some time. I tie them in a number of colors using Snowshoe rabbit foot...



    ...or CDC...




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