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    Default Should I learn czech nymphing?

    And if so, just buy the book, or get a guide to teach me, or youtube? Is it just a fad, or is it really a better way. Can you only do it with a 3 lb weighted fly, or just an ordinary tungsten beadhead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by herefishy View Post
    And if so, just buy the book, or get a guide to teach me, or youtube? Is it just a fad, or is it really a better way. Can you only do it with a 3 lb weighted fly, or just an ordinary tungsten beadhead?
    Yes, yes, might be helpful, marginal value, not really, sort of, no, and yes.

    Ultimately the technique has been around a very long time but there have been some interesting refinements recently. Nothing wrong with learning a new technique, and you might find it comes in handy on certain waters. George Daniel's Dynamic Nymphing is as good a place as any to start.

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    Other than using several weighted "flies" as opposed to one nymoh; and fishing the shortest possible distance from the fisher (often with the fly line not even touching water); I'm not sure of the difference with the old Leiserling Lift style of nymphing.

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    Well, I see one difference, that's the 45 degree downstream drag the flies. That's interesting

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    I just can't imagine what skill it would take to exactly let the weigthed nymphs get all the way to the bottom, but keep them from snagging. That is probably what the downstream drag helps prevent.

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    Generally speaking, nymphing is done with the intent of "bouncing" the weighted nymph along the bottom much like the natural does when dislodged.

    In fact, most good nymphers will tell you that unless you are detecting a bunch of "false takes" by virtue of the nymph hitting a rock or some other obstacle on the bottom, your fly isn't deep enough.

    Now, there are times when I purposely fish a nymph higher in the water column.........usually if there are lots of weeds; or to represent a rising nymph when using the Leiserling Lift technique.

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    Drag free is the key to nymphing. Mostly the fish are feeding on nymphs of one kind or another, they see them every day. They dislodge them when they are flashing (turning semi-sideways to dig down into the rocks). So, they really know what food should look like when it is coming downstream towards them. If you have drag on your flies, they will not look natural. The vast majority of their food is flowing by right on the bottom unless they are looking up for emergers or a hatch. So, yes, you bounce the flies along the bottom. Sure you will snag up and sometimes you will leave flies behind, but that is fishing. But, on the end of the drift, be it long ling drifting on some of our larger rivers, or high sticking it, Czeching or whatever you want to call it, always let the flies swing up to the surface, like an emerger.

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    Yes, learn it. It will really up your game way above the dry fly and bobber crowd. Don't lock yourself into specifically "Czech" style however. There are a number of EURO nymphing styles that each have advantages for different conditions. Start with getting your hands on DYNAMIC NYMPHING by George Daniel. There are a number of pretty good videos on YouTube and Vimeo that you should find helpful too. Aaron Jasper and Jonathan Barnes are good places to start. Aaron has a series of full lenght DVDs on the subject that are good. Once you get the idea...just get out there an practice. You'll catch on. Most important...know where fish lie. Euro nymphing goes a little bit against the grain of the drag free crowd. It's incredibly effective and the reason they totally beat the pants off North American fly anglers in competitions, ...until we caught on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagefisher View Post
    Drag free is the key to nymphing. Mostly the fish are feeding on nymphs of one kind or another, they see them every day. They dislodge them when they are flashing (turning semi-sideways to dig down into the rocks). So, they really know what food should look like when it is coming downstream towards them. If you have drag on your flies, they will not look natural. The vast majority of their food is flowing by right on the bottom unless they are looking up for emergers or a hatch. So, yes, you bounce the flies along the bottom. Sure you will snag up and sometimes you will leave flies behind, but that is fishing. But, on the end of the drift, be it long ling drifting on some of our larger rivers, or high sticking it, Czeching or whatever you want to call it, always let the flies swing up to the surface, like an emerger.

    Larry ---sagefisher---


    Larry,
    Like I said, except for nymphing much closer to the fisher, and using several nymphs at once, how does it differ from the age-old Leiserling Lift method??

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    Czech Nymphing is no different than tight-line nymphing. Many folk broke into fly fishing through bait fishing. Think about drifting a worm or salmon egg with a split-shot through a seam, tapping that split-shot along the bottom, with only your leader in the water and rod held high. It doesn't have to be drag free......just get your bait through likely water. Drag it, bounce it, swing it. No different than Czech Nymphing. If you've ever high-sticked bait with a fly rod....you're there....just replace the bait and split-shot with a heavy fly or set of flies.

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