A Cree rooster is much more pronounced. As is a mature cree hen. The "JV" Hen, is a "juvenile" hen. Slightly more subdued in color, but the hackle to me is a cross between a Whiting Brahma and Metz hen neck. I like it alot, but the saddle is for larger patterns than the vast majority of my wet patterns. Figured somebody else could put it to better use.