While I may not agree on adding a new category defining non-traditional flies as lures, I would never suggest that Allan would start a thread as a troll. He is one of the most regular and valued contributors here on FAOL and an extremely talented fly tier. The debate on what constitutes a "fly" v's a "lure" has been around almost as long synthetic materials have been and will probably continue for a long time into the future. I personally don't have any problem using whatever materials I need/want to and really don't care what people call it. As far as I'm concerned, all flies are lures, but not all lures are flies. Just one man's opinion.

Jim Smith