Five feet of brown Cameleon and 3 feet of clear tippet . . . ? Don't you feel the brown cameleon would put the fish off? And yes, I DO use it, but not that close to the fly. I use it because, to my senses, the cameleon is limper than regular clear Maxima, and George Harvey stressed a limpish, flexible leader. Other voices have said that the butt should approximate the tip of the line in flexibility. I think a .015 cameleon does that with a 5 wt fly line

Fish on!
Peter