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    Coch y bonddu
    Hook: Medium weight #10 (pre-WW2 - see note), or modern equivalent
    Thread: Benecchi 12/0, dark chocolate
    Hackle: Coch y bonddu, or dark furnace - webby cock - tied short
    Body: Peacock herl
    Tag: Krystal Flash, gold
    Rib: Tying thread

    Note: Pattern tied for a historical wingless wet swap - hence the hook selection, and retention of the huge barb




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    What is furnace? Is that dark brown with black running along the stems?

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    Hans - As always - nicely tied. Mustads?

    Steven - 'Furnace' is as you describe. "... dark brown with black running along the stems." Basically a brown 'Badger'. Coch y bonddu hackle is the same PLUS the edges of the feathers are black.

    Allan

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    "Roc" is the rib?

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    That has got to be deadly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Billingsley View Post
    "Roc" is the rib?

    Joe
    Indeed Joe. Thanks. Corrected now.

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    Oh darn, I thought I had learned by first Dutch word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    Hans - As always - nicely tied. Mustads?

    Steven - 'Furnace' is as you describe. "... dark brown with black running along the stems." Basically a brown 'Badger'. Coch y bonddu hackle is the same PLUS the edges of the feathers are black.

    Allan
    Thanks Allan. I recently purchased a brown half neck over the web. I most definitely got a lot of furnace. Now I know what to do with it.

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    Hans,

    Great looking fly. There is an interesting article in the latest issue of the International Federation of Fly Fishers magazine, The Flyfisher, by Ni Rogers, a U.K. IFFF member talking about the Coch-y-bonddu fly. He says it is a Welsh fly, named after a Welsh beetle that once frequented the heather in the uplands of the hills of Wales. It can be fished either wet or dry. Tied on a lighter 'up eye' hook and using cock hackles for dry or on a heavier 'down-eyed' hook using hen hackles for the wet.

    I love to see the old flies still being tied.

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    Steven: I've been told that it is very difficult for the breeders of brown hackle to avoid having a black section of the barb closest to the stem. (Per Metz comment re their Microbarb Saddles) This is not to be considered a handicap and is used as an advantage.. It results in a nice darker thorax area beneath the brown hackles. I've also heard that some of the famous classic Catskill tiers use a light colored silver badger for cream hackles for this reason. I have no evidence to support these thoughts however, it's all hearsay..

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