Warren, I didn't go there, I was busy trying to make it to the next sunrise and didn't prevent my rods from going to the bottom of the river. Although I was already wet the water temperature and the air temperature prevent me from considering probing for rods that day. I didn't drown. Mr. Kevin Proctor customized and made me a gift of a much better rod than the 5 wt. I lost. My Colorado Customs Rod is the best casting rod I have ever used. I found a bright blue Ross 4 wt., that was christened on the Elk River last fall and proved to be an adequate rod for most my fishing. I stopped by a local National Guard unit and made a swap to replace the boonie hat I had worn since 1989, it was last seen floating south on the Hooch. Today I am whole from my losses or even better off than before them.