Hook in vise

[Jayatwork]

I found another one: http://www.amazon.com/Tie-Your-Own-F...der_1438256051

I have this book. The book on Amazon says copyright 2010, but my copy must be from the '60s. Deke Meyer's and Patrick's books are the only ones I remember with that advise.

If you look at the illustrations of the hook in the vise, you can see how little space there is between the rear part of the shank and the vise jaws. For me that outweighs any possible advantage. Plus the possibility of damaging the hook point. It's not for me.

[holensum]

I suggest that you not only "don't bury the point" but also "don't bury the barb". The thinned down section at the root of the lancing cut made in raising the barb is the weakest spot in the hook. Keep the barb area exposed also.

I have broken more than one point off debarbing some of the smaller sizes. Despite my facetious comment above, I normally secure the hook on the bend and work the thread around the point and very carefully pull back hair and hackle when I have too. I have found that having as much of the shank unobstructed as possible make the tying a bit easier.