Hey everyone thanks for the advice. Also thanks for offering to send me the rod wrapping video. I will wait on the video until I am ready to purchase and build the rod. Right now its fall in Wisconsin and getting quite cold at night. I am busy getting all the outside work done that I have been putting off all summer. This was my third year fly fishing smallmouth bass and panfish. Had so much fun I didn't get alot of yard work done!! This is also the second season on a custom river jon boat I built from scratch, and is it great in the shallow parts of the river.

I plan to build several rods starting with a cheaper Matrix kit from H&H. If I don't like it I will give it some young kid who wants to get started fly fishing. I plan to build all my rods, so I am probably going to purchase the Sully. The price is fairly reasonable, it comes with a video, and does not look to complicated.

Thanks to all who replied and tight lines.