Chewydog - Yep, my vise, my rules or hoops as you say.
IMO, If picking a number, saying I need a vise and hopefully PIF when done with it is too many hoops for someone to jump through for a $100+ vise, then they probably won't tie many flies because of the "work" involved anyway...
I'm just trying to promote "both" the sport/craft of Fly Tying and the PIF behavior...