+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: One fly?

  1. #1

    Default One fly?

    There is always some discussion about which one fly a person might use if you were allowed only one fly. I went out today and ran into a day that is kind of unusual for me. After changing flys about 3 times I spent the rest of the day fishing one fly. While I am happy to switch flys based on conditions or structure etc. So when I catch a lot of fish on just one fly up and down the creek I take note. That fly today was a #12 clouser on a tmc200 style hook.

    Having said all that what would be y'alls one fly for warmwater (gills, bass, whatever).
    Mine would have to be a neutral colored, or black #12 bugger, or that little clouser I used today. HOSS


    P.S. I think using one fly would be extremely hard for me to actually do. I am a tinkerer. So if you don't think you could stick with just one feel free to say so.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Western Washington
    Posts
    1,506
    Blog Entries
    27

    Default

    The problem with the 'One Fly' idea is that you had to go through 4 flies to find The One. Based on the One Fly concept, you would have been stuck using your first fly which wasn't catching anything. Guess I am saying, I won't ever restrict myself to just one fly, the fish are too finicky. Larry ---sagefisher---

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    422

    Default

    I'm a tinkerer, too, to the point where I'll take off a fly that has been working well just to see if something else also works. For me, a lot of the interest in fly fishing (and I consider tenkara to be a subset of fly fishing) is the fly. Fishing one fly all the time would make it pretty dull in my opinion.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Prague, Czech Republic
    Posts
    16

    Default

    I do it. I am absolutely convinced that I can fish with one fly. I often fish with with one fly. The difference is that almost every day it is a another fly: http://www.tenkaratimes.com/tenkara-...kebari-library. Otherwise it's simply boring to me.
    Small stream junkei and tenkara apologist, write for http://www.tenkaratimes.com

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    North Port, Florida
    Posts
    200

    Default

    BH Olive Chrystal Bugger.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Fresno, California
    Posts
    397

    Default

    Sep 12, 2013

    Well, now, I guess it's just fishin'

    Almost every morning I start the day with a search to see what new stuff Google can find for me on tenkara. I'd have to say that this morning yielded one of the bigger surprises. It seems Dr. Ishigaki is in England visiting the first ever tenkara-only "syndicate" which sounds a lot like the private fishing clubs we have here.

    His hosts were concerned that the waters he would be fishing were a bit deep compared to the high gradient mountain streams in Japan. Perhaps his unweighted wet fly would not get deep enough, and the waters offered few plunge pools (which will take an unweighted fly deeper than it would sink on its own). They thought to provide him with bead head flies to get deep enough to have even a chance of catching fish.

    Lo and behold, he had brought his own. Who would have thought that the master who is the central figure of the "one fly" philosophy would even accept an offered bead head, let alone tie and bring his own?
    They said that Dr. Ishigaki "was keen to stress that the method is a highly flexible one; and in rivers that fall outside the typical characteristics of Japanese mountain streams ? there are a number of fringe modifications to the core approach" and that it was acceptable to use these modifications "on occasion."

    Forgive me, but it seems that if you are fishing any stream anywhere, and the fish are holding deep, and there are no plunge pools (which by the way describes most rivers in the US other than small mountain streams like those on which tenkara was born), bead head flies might well be the core approach rather than the fringe.

    I am not in any way trying to poke fun at either Dr. Ishigaki or his hosts. What I am trying to say is that if you are fishing a high gradient mountain stream the core approach works fine - that's why it's the core approach. If you are fishing "rivers that fall outside the typical characteristics of Japanese mountain streams" the core approach might in fact be misplaced.
    If you want to catch fish, and Dr. Ishigaki obviously did (he'd wanted for fifty years to catch a grayling), you will use the flies and techniques that are appropriate for the conditions at hand.

    In other words, tenkara is not dogmatic. It isn't a ritual. It isn't a religion or a life style. It has a long tradition - in Japan. In other countries and on other waters, no. If you want to catch fish, especially outside of core waters, you may have to go a bit outside the "core approach."

    Although we have never heard this before, we now know that the good doctor is not strictly a one fly angler, and he will use different flies in order to catch fish. If he's not dogmatic, why should you be?

    The above was copied from Tenkarabum's Fishing Blog but I believe it fits in very nicely with this subject matter....Golden.
    Last edited by Golden; 09-15-2013 at 05:12 PM.

  7. #7

    Default

    I get the feeling that most would prefer not to use one fly only which I do understand. Only a couple of you suggested the one fly they would use. Remember now this is for fun not necessarily for arguments sake. Having said that I do tend to settle down to a particular fly after a few casts unless it's a tough day. Thus the reason for the question. What is that one fly you tend to settle down to on most trips? That is where I was going with all this.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Athens, AL. USA
    Posts
    100

    Default

    It is very seldom I tie on just one fly, but the popper dropper I use is generally the same two flies. I use an orange popper and a fly I call a Knucks Nymph which is also orange colored.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Northern CA. United States
    Posts
    30

    Default

    Well this is a tough one for me too because I'm a fly tier and a tinkerer as well. I guess if I had to choose just one fly based on fishing it for fun and action, I would choose my old friend the Adams in a size 16. Not because it's the most effective pattern, however on many days it is, but because it's an old sentimental friend and it's so fun to fish the top water.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Fresno, California
    Posts
    397

    Default

    In the areas where I fish caddis and stone flies are far more important than mayflies are, so I would go with a down-wing pattern like a Royal Trude for clear, sunny weather conditions. As JD mentioned above, and for most of the same reasons as he stated, this would be a dry fly approach as well for me. But there is no good reason why it could not be a wet fly pattern approach if that's the way you prefer to fish. Red and white and peacock herl seem to have a nearly universal fish appeal under clear, sunny weather conditions. I put a hot pink butt on my patterns, but I use dyed red peacock herl for the bodies, and red thread to hold the White Polypropylene Floating Yarn wing in place, Elk Hair Caddis style, only no hackle is required to float this fly in this tying style.

    For overcast and cloudy and rainy weather conditions, dawn and dusk, or any time the water you are fishing is back lit, a flat black fly is much easier for the fish and you to see on the water than a light colored wing will be. I use a variation on a Black Trude but tied like the example given above, that's a Black Floating Poly-Yarn wing, dyed orange peacock herl body, and a hot orange butt that fishes very effectively in these kinds of conditions. Again, no hackle is required to float this pattern either, and the profile presented on the water is much more realistic than the profiles hackled patterns present to the fish.

    White Poloy-yarn is highly UVR and UVF reflective and reactive. The Black Poly-yarn wing also makes a solid target for the fish to hone in on because it is highly UV absorbent, as are the peacock herl bodies. The hot butts provide a fluorescent high contrast hot spot for the fish to target at the business end of the hook. My Sheeps Creek series of fly patterns incorporate many of these same ingredients into a series of wet fly patterns for those who prefer to fish in that way.

    Here are a couple of photos of the Sheeps Creek Patterns, first in normal sun light and then under Black Light: http://www.tenkarausa.com/forum/view...hp?f=15&t=2087
    Last edited by Golden; 09-17-2013 at 11:40 PM.

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts