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    Here is a bit about the originator of the Funnel Dun fly I found on the web:

    The Funnel DunThe simplest version of an upside down dun fly was created by Niel Patterson as the ?funnel dun?, this pattern uses the same hackle as regular Catskill tied or Halfordian creations, but it is forced into a cone or funnel shape, combined with the tail being tied markedly around the bend of the hook the fly has a distinct propensity to land ?the wrong way up? thereby ?hiding the hook point?. It is certainly much simpler to manufacture than Goddard and Clarke?s pattern, but I have to confess it lacks aesthetic appeal to my eye. (I have a soft spot for fishing with pretty looking flies I?m afraid).
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    Looks like a Japanese Kebari fly. Typical reverse hackle fly.

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    When I tie them, I use deer hair.
    Narc,
    It is tied in a "funnel" shape so that it floats upside down.
    Also, the tails are tied past the bend for the same reason.

    The whole purpose of the design is to have the fly float upside down per Niel Patterson - the originator.

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    So what was Patterson trying to accomplish by this? Similar tact to Roy Christie's Reverse paraduns (i.e. get the hook gape out of the water) or something else? McPhail has a pretty good youtube.com SBS on this, if anyone is interested.

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    Yes. It was in response to the USD (up side down) paradun that Goddard and Clarke came up with in their groundbreaking work. Their pattern was extremely difficult to tie. I believe it first appeared in book format in their book: The Trout and The Fly.
    Yes, the intent was to tie a pattern which looked like the insect from below the water and have no hook exposed underwater.

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    The concept of flies that float 'upside down', with the hook pointed up away from the water surface, is an old one that goes well beyond Goddard and Clarke.
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    I said that their book was groundbreaking work. Their pattern was a USD Paradun. A complicated, and winged USD pattern - difficult to tie. Their book was groundbreaking in many ways. Their work on the vision of the trout, effects of light and the "window" on the trout's vision of a dry fly, etc., etc.

    Here is a snapshot of their USD Paradun which was explained at length in their book as to the reasons for the pattern and how to tie the pattern.





    Was the Funnel Dun Fly tied to float upside down?
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    That looks like a great tenkara fly!

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    Thought I would try a simpler version of Goddard and Clarke's USD Paradun. Not as elegant as theirs, but I think it might work.





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    Byron,
    Have you tied any of Roy Christie's USD EasyPeasy flies? They really look great on the water.
    http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flyt...103104fotw.php

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