sagefisher, Thanks for that one. I live about 20 miles from Whiteman AFB, Mo. the have lots of Warthogs there and we see them quite often. That old bird was almost retired until the AF found out there wasn't anything in the inventory that could do the same job and do it as well. Bird has been upgraded since then but still scares enemy tank crews silly, that 30MM Gatling gun is wicked. Take care, John.