John, I've tried some furled extended bodies, but I really have trouble with the incorporated tails. I've studied your JARS FOTW, but just can't seem to get the hang of it. I either end up with tail butts not incorporated (sticking out to the side) and / or a furl that is too loose. Seems like when I grasp near the tails, the body doesn't furl well and when I don't grasp the tails, they get out of control and don't get incorporated. My furled bodies without tails seem to work ok. Got any more tips?