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    Default Fraud Alert !!!!!

    "Newtyer1" has been trolling other FFBB's for free stuff and scamming members. If your read the first post he has been on FAOL before trying to scam a member. So if you are a member of other BB's, be wary of him.

    http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php?showtopic=73308


    http://washingtonflyfishing.com/foru...-martin.88506/

    His first post on NAFF was to try to sell a computer to one of the members.

    http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/fo...amboo-rod.html
    Last edited by Silver Creek; 04-29-2013 at 06:15 PM.
    Regards,

    Silver

    "Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought"..........Szent-Gyorgy

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    Silver Creek,

    Sorry to hear this. I am one of the members here that he still owes money too and I feel I can write it off. He has owed me since last December 2012. Live and learn...at least I can sleep at night and I hope he cannot.....
    Warren
    Fly fishing and fly tying are two things that I do, and when I am doing them, they are the only 2 things I think about. They clear my mind.

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    I think he has been selling the stuff he scam over on SEFF.

    South East Fly Fishing Forum


    He has posted his photo over there:





    South East Fly Fishing Forum Personal Page
    Regards,

    Silver

    "Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought"..........Szent-Gyorgy

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    All Members,

    Scott Martin, = NewTyer1 joined our FAOL in January 2011. We had a problem with his actions and he was placed on a Ban for 30 days. On March 8th I gave him a 90 day Ban for commercial advertising.
    Since that time I have been contacted by several other boards that shows he is not conducting himself as per our rules. I have been waiting for his Ban to run out but now see he has been visiting our site as is he allowed but I do not know what he is up to? perhaps just looking??
    I will give him a total permanent Ban today and delete him from our site. I had spoken with Deanna and she is aware & approved his ban.
    I might caution all, that from what we see, he can not be trusted and please govern yourself accordingly.
    Anyone that desires to contact me privately about "bad"contacts with him, please do so. The only way I can protect all of us is for you all to give me feedback.
    509-999-7472 and or denny@conranch.com

    Denny

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    Thanks. I had sent some thread, that I didn't want payment for because of his "problems". Man, when you try to be nice. This is the only time I've seen this.
    Mike

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    Anyone wanting more info on "newtyer1" check this thread on Washingtonflyfishing.com
    "Request for help recovering payment or rod from NewTyer1 aka Scott Martin"

    Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Mayfly Aviator, Apr 18, 2013.
    here fishy fishy!!!

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    Scott Martin reminds me of Charlie Wenzel, the star of the internet defrauders, who reached fame when he tried to defraud a buyer on pirate4x4.com. Now his name is apart of the Urban dictionary as in being "wenzeled"


    Urban Dictionary: wenzeled


    Reportedly, the story of Charlie Wenzel and what he did has been the point of discussion in classes about ethics.


    Google Charlie Wenzel and see what happens.


    "wenzeled".. the sad story of internet scammer Charlie Wenzel - RedFlagDeals.com Forums


    Charlie Wenzel: A Study in Arrogance and Stupidity


    The original thread goes 73 pages.


    D60 rear 4.88s 35 spline - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum


    Before it was over Charlie's life was open for all to see.




    Details about Charlie's home:


    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...=399203&page=2
    Pics of Charlie's home:


    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...399203&page=19


    Pics of Charlie:


    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...399203&page=25


    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=412136


    Charlie T shirt:


    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...399203&page=32


    Phone #:


    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...399203&page=34


    Charlie's Dad:


    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...399203&page=12


    Then Charlie makes it worse by adding a threat to his "apology" and then editing the threat out.


    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=412489
    Regards,

    Silver

    "Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought"..........Szent-Gyorgy

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    He made a committment on this forums to have a rod build for a gentleman that was down on his luck. He said he would supply all the components if someone would build it. I offered to take on the task of the build and he said he would send the components. After numerous replies that money was tight (over the course of several months) I offered to send him the funds to ship them. Then for some reason I felt that something just wasn't right and did not do it. Instead I contacted the individual it is for and opted to do the whole thing on my own. With my busy schedule and work load, it will finally be completed this weekend and hopfully on the way to him next tuesday. This is considerably a different build than what it started out to be especially component wise. Lemke seat, stabilized insert, snake universal guides, and one of my Goldeneye 7'6" 4pc 3wt graphite blanks..

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    He still owes me a bit for one of the military rods that I built for him. I wrote it off as it wasn't a large amount but his getting something donated on one board then selling it on another, a bamboo rod comes to mind, along with quite a few others certainly does not sit well with me.
    Kevin


    Be careful how you live. You may be the only Bible some person ever reads.

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    Default Gone for good

    I always hate to ban anyone but! Rest easy, Scott Martin, NewTyer 1 is history on our site.
    His trail of scammin is over on our site. I understand he has played the same game on several
    other sites as well. He has spread some interesting stories but using his two yrs in the NG as
    an excuse to obtain $$ for himsel is just too much. I doubt if anyone will ever know all the correct story.
    He has refused to block out personal info on his DD-214 and allowing us to see it. I personally do not believe
    one of his stories. Being a Vet myself, his stories hurt me deeply.
    Please everyone, if you want to deal with him, just be careful. I have quite a file on him that I could share, but will not.
    From day one when I first picked up on a possible fraud, and confronted him, let him off w/30 day ban. Then several others,
    Bad Denny! Should have hammered him then. Sort of like shutting the barn door after the horse is out.
    I personally approve and or delete all new requests for membership. It is possible for a person to try to register, using a different handle and get by me but the IP normally will not change. I ask all of you, if you suspect one of our old banned members slipping by me, please let me know. I will research it out before acting. I do need you all to help.
    History: Joined FAOL Jan, 2011 as NewTyer 1 #22026, beginner fly tying, Student. As time progressed he developed many illnesses.
    Had auto problems, then daughter w/cancer, VA problems, becane an expert fly tier and rod maker. Authority on all rods & reels.
    Different stories on different boards. Has been banned on several others also. His real problem as I see it is he is a pro scammer.
    I am sure he has an answer to every thing that has happened to him and none ot it his fault.

    Kevin, I understand he has already sold that beautiful rod you made him, that had the ribbons wraps. I doubt if you will ever see any more $$ from him. Sad!

    Lets all go fishin.

    Denny

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