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    Default Building Up Your Own Tapered Fluorocarbon Tenkara Lines

    Building Up Your Own Tapered FC Tenkara Lines

    Background:

    Stream Fishing: My first T-line was a 10 long Nylon Furled T-USA line that I did not like at all right from the get go. It kinked badly and was very hard to straighten out right off the spool. And when you had to break off on a snag, it would recoil and become such a tangled mess that it could take 20 minuets or more to make it fishable again. At the time I was not completely committed to Tenkara fly fishing, so I had Western fly tackle along with me and I put on an Amnesia butted small stream leader, and it worked a lot better for me than the Nylon Furled T-line did.

    Lake and Pond Fishing: For Tenkara lake and pond fishing, I used longer Western style lake fly fishing leaders as my T-lines quite successfully, again with Amnesia running line utilized for the butt sections on the lines, and the transition and tippet sections being made up from Fluorocarbon line and tippet materials. But under windy conditions (without the weight of a fly line behind the leader to pull the line along with it) my make shift tapered Tenkara lines lacked the mass to cast well into the wind. So I bought some spools of FC leader materials in 20, 15 and 12 Lb. test, which were the same weights that the Amnesia running lines I had been using for leader and Tenkara line construction were used in. And I made my tapered Tenkara lines with those materials, which worked out a lot better for me than the Amnesia butted lines had.

    Getting A Real Spool Of Tenkara FC Fishing Line: After getting my first spool of T-Bum?s size 3 HiVis Orange Tenkara Line, and seeing how much more easily it was to cast, to see and straighten the coil set out of, I did not care to use the PLine FC materials any longer in my T-line construction.

    My Second Furled Line Try:
    I did also buy a Second Generation T-USA Kevlar Furled line to try for my second time around with a furled line, which came off of the spool with out any hint of coil set, cast great in the wind, and did not tangle at all but felt a lot heavier than the other T-lines I had been using, and would sink pretty rapidly when I was trying to fish dry flies on lakes and ponds when the wind kept me from holding the line up and off of the water, often pulling the fly under the water at the worst possible moment. I tried the usual floatants and some pretty exotic and expensive treatments as well in an effort to get the heavier than water Kevlar line to float, but with only short lived successes. I now consider the Traditional Furled Kevlar T-USA Traditional Line to be my sinking Tenkara fly line, most useful for getting flies deep in the water.

    Stream Fishing T-lines:
    The essence of Tenkara fly fishing on running waters is to hold as much of your line up and off of the water as possible. In that application, whether the line floats or not, is made of FC, Kevlar or Titanium is is of little concern because as much of the line as possible is going be held up in the air and not be placed on the water. While furled nylon lines can be made to float with floatant applications, there is little need for floating lines in fishing on running waters. Tapered Furled lines are often preferred by many T-anglers to level lines for their high visibility, casting ease, and the greater ability to make gentle presentations present with the furled lines. But you can also make your own tapered FC lines that possess most of these same attributes, and are often better wind fighting lines as well. So let?s look into what it takes to make your own Tapered FC Tenkara fly lines.
    Tapered FC Line Construction:

    Tapered FC Line Construction:
    The lines are constructed by tying different sizes and lengths of FC line material together. I use a Double Uni-Knot for joining different line diameter segments together for a tapered line, and a triple Surgeon?s loop knot is used for the transition to tippet line connections. Joining the line to the Lillian can be done with the Slip Knot, or a Perfect Loop, and the loop-to-loop connection. The girth hitch method can also be used as well as attaching a loop to the end of the Lillian for doing the loop-to-loop Lillian to line connection. Contrary to common belief loops do not need to be made as small as you can make them. Longer loops are easer to make and are more pliable. They are also easier to get apart. Now that you have an idea of the knots we need to know to tie these lines with, let?s get right into the particulars of making up some of these Tapered FC Lines for the different rod actions available.

    Making Tapered FC Lines For 5:5 Action Rods:
    A simple tapered line is probably the best approach to take in fishing with the slower action rods. The first determination that needs to be made in making a tapered line is how long a line do we want and need to fish with ? let?s say 10 feet as an example. The next thing we need to determine is how heavy the line needs to be at the beginning of our line ? say size 3.5 or 12 Lb. test for the first step of the tapered line. And how many steps we are going to be used to get down to the desired tippet strength ? say 5X tippet in this case. Going down in roughly 2 Lb. increments would give us one length each of 12, 10, 8 and 6 Lb. test lines in 4 steps. 10 feet of line divided by 4 equal steps results in 2.5 feet of line for each step in length to make up the total 10 foot long tapered FC Line. Because a tapered line will not weigh as much as a level line of the same length will weigh, it may be necessary to go up one line size or more above what is recommended for the rod you are using to get enough weight built into the tapered line for it to properly load the rod. For a really long line, you may need to start with a lighter than the recommended line to keep the total line weight light enough to be able to cast that length of line well. But in either case, dividing the line length by the number of different line weight segments to be used will tell you how long to make each line segment to get to that line length.

    Making Tapered FC Lines For 6:4 Action Rods:
    With moderate 6:4 and faster action rods we can try using a compound tapered line building technique, which involves progressively shortening each line segment as it steps down in line weight and diameter. To some extent this can be thought of as being a ratio: The classic being 60% butt section, 20% transition section, and 20% tippet section for the total line length including the tippet and fly, or be in specific measurements of length for the various line segments. A formula that has worked out well for me with my fixed line rods is: 4/3/2/1, or 4 feet of #3 HiVis FC line/ 3 feet of 8 Lb. test FC line/ 2 feet of 6 Lb. test FC line/ and 1 foot of 4 Lb test FC line, with 2 to 3 or more feet of 6 or 7X tippet material being used for the final line segment. If you start out with a heavier line size, you drop the 4 Lb test on the end. The first two steps are considered to be the butt section of the tapered line, the next two steps are the transition section, and the tippet is the final section of the line. Tippet section lengths may need to be tuned for the wind resistant qualities or the weight of the fly or fly patterns being cast to ensure proper turnover of the tippet. With flies to be fished subsurface, an incomplete turnover will allow the fly to sink deeper, faster.

    Making Tapered FC Lines For 7:3 and 8:2 Action Rods:
    When tip casting stiff action rods are being used, more weight is going to need to be built into the butt sections of the line to properly load the rod. And with the faster tapers these rods have, taking bigger step-downs may also prove to be more helpful. For example, you may want to make up a line going something like this: 4 feet of size #4.5 HiVis line/ 3 feet of size 3.5 HiVis line/ 2 feet of size 2.5 HiVis line/ and 1 foot of 6 Lb. test clear FC line/ and then 3 to 4 or more feet of 5X FC tippet material.

    Conclusions:
    While this may sound complicated to anyone who has never tried to make up a tapered T-line or a tapered leader, it is not rocket science or hard to do at all. Assuming that your casting is proficient, if the line lacks power it is probably too light in weight. If the line hinges, the hinging section may be too thin a diameter to transmit the casting energy or need to be shortened up a bit to make it a little stiffer in that section of the line. If the back of the line is too heavy and stiff, it may over load the road causing accuracy problems and not reaching the distance wished to be cast to. Too light a line will also lack accuracy, distance casting ability, and wind fighting abilities. Make the necessary changes you need to get the line to do what you want it to do.

    In tying the different line segments together, different colored FC lines can be used to ensure the best line visibility under differing lighting conditions, which will be much better than can be had with the whole line being of the same color. The sky is the limit with what you can do when you make up your own T-lines, and you can fine tune your lines to your rods and your casting style. Making lines is not something that is limited to just the people who make up their own furled lines, you can make your own tapered FC lines as well level FC lines.
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    I am going to put up some links for visual instruction on how to tie the knots involved in making up Tapered T-Lines.

    First, the Double Uni-knot: http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/double-uni-knot/

    When tying line sections together with the Double Uni-knot, it is best to tie the first half of the knot about an inch shy of the length you want that section of the tapered line to be. Once the first half is completed, you can check the measurement again and adjust the knot position to about 1/2 inch shy of the final length you are shooting for by sliding the knot along the length of unknotted line, then tie the second half of the knot a 1/2 inch or so beyond the first half and pull the two halves together.

    Second, the Surgon's Loop Knot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfQ4DbIUJWo

    In the film above the doubble Surgon's Loop is shown, a Trippel Surgon's Loop just takes the loop end through the over hand knot one more time.

    Third, the Perfection Loop Knot: http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/perfection-loop/

    Fourth, the Loop-To-Loop connection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwLruXZCelE

    Sorry about the redundancy of showing the Perfect Loop tying sequence again but this is done with better knot tying technique than the earlier sequence and shows the Loop-To-Loop connection as well.
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    You should already know how to tie the Uni-knot from the instructions for tying the Double Uni-knot, which is just the first half of the Double Uni-knot and used for tying the line or leader butt to the PVC coated fly line. The same knot is also used for the fly to tippet connection, but in that case it is often called the Duncan Loop. The Uni or Duncan Loops have the advantage of being able to be tied out in front of the fly so its hackle does not get messed up. Then the loop can be tightened down to the hook's eye or left open slightly for better action on jigging type wet fly presentations. When a fish is hooked and played the open loop will slide closed but it can be pulled back open again for the next presentation. Here is a link for how to tie the Duncan Loop: http://killroys.com/knots/duncan-loop-or-uni-knot/ and http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/uni-knot/

    Here is a video showing how to tie braided line to a fly line but it also works just the same with mono, whether it be nylon or fluorocarbon line. Again the Perfect Loop is also shown but you can quit the video when you get to that point. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWorbh8BBpY

    As a final note it is a good idea to Zap-A-Gap weld all of your permanent tapered line knots together. There are a lot of super glue brands out there on the market but Zap-A-Gap is the only reliably waterproof super glue on the market. Loon UV Knot Sense (which will cure in natural sunlight just fine so you don't need to buy their Loon Mini UV Lamp if you do not want to buy it) can be used to form a smooth coating over all the tapered line knots you tie to help prevent the line and water debris from catching on the knots.
    Last edited by Golden; 04-26-2013 at 12:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden View Post
    I am going to put up some links for visual instruction on how to tie the knots involved in making up Tapered T-Lines.

    First, the Double Uni-knot: http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/double-uni-knot/

    When tying line sections together with the Double Uni-knot, it is best to tie the first half of the knot about an inch shy of the length you want that section of the tapered line to be. Once the first half is completed, you can check the measurement again and adjust the knot position to about 1/2 inch shy of the final length you are shooting for by sliding the knot along the length of unknotted line, then tie the second half of the knot a 1/2 inch or so beyond the first half and pull the two halves together.

    Second, the Surgon's Loop Knot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfQ4DbIUJWo

    In the film above the doubble Surgon's Loop is shown, a Trippel Surgon's Loop just takes the loop end through the over hand knot one more time.

    Third, the Perfection Loop Knot: http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/perfection-loop/

    Fourth, the Loop-To-Loop connection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwLruXZCelE

    Sorry about the redundancy of showing the Perfect Loop tying sequence again but this is done with better knot tying technique than the earlier sequence and shows the Loop-To-Loop connection as well.
    Or you could just stay on this site......

    http://www.flyanglersonline.com/begi...11201index.php

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    Brad, thank you for putting that up. I was not aware that information was available here. I have not looked at what the general boards have to offer other than for viewing the excellent stillwater fly fishing articles. Since taking up Tenkara fly fishing, my interest and motivation for reading on general fly fishing subjects has greatly fallen off.

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    No worries. The people that do not check out the home page are missing out on a wealth of information.

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