thanks. yep, it's really light, and only 8'3". i can just lift it across my knees, or boost it up onto the rack. got a Thule rack 'cause the Yakima wouldn't fit the Ford crossbars.

definitely going to take your advice and fish a couple times first before installing anything! got a rod leash on order; paddle and leash were supplied by the owner, as was a swell rug to protect the back of the car when boosting the kayak onto the roof.

i feel a little like the folks who get a free puppy and then go to the vet...