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    Badger & Copper
    Hook: Partridge Single Salmon #9
    Thread: Benecchi 12/0, black
    Hackle: Badger
    Tag/rib: Tinsel, gold oval
    Body: Spirit River Brite Blend, burnt orange


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    Hans W
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    Very nice!

    Regards,

    Gandolf

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    Do you 'spin' the badger to get it to flare out?
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    Do you want to explain Hans, or should I? Go on then I'll tell.

    Badger refers to a hackle colour. Well several colours really. A hackle with a centre list of black is referred to as Badger, they come most commonly in gold and silver.

    Cheers,
    A.

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    Oh, that makes sense. I started to get excited because I have badger fur thanks to Jim, but no real fantastic hackle feathers yet for that size of hook.
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    And Badger that has brown on the outside is furnace. It might be Greenwell if the color is right and it has black tips as well as a black center.
    Those more savvy than I am are free to correct or elaborate on my definition of Greenwell hackle without offending me.

    Regards,
    Ed

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    Ed, your description of Greenwell hackle is spot on. (Now I am about to make a spelling mistake, but its OK no one knows the right spelling) In A Dictionary of Trout Flies Courtney Williams says he has a letter in Cannon Greenwell's own hand that says his fly should be tied with a Coch-y-Bondduh hackle. Which is a dark red with black centre list and black tips. Not an easy hackle to find. It is considered "sub standard" by some breeders.
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    A.

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    Furnace = Black center, outer barbs red/brown (there are many shades)
    Coch-y-Bondduh ( there are a couple different spellings) = Black center, barbs more red than brown but also has black tips and sprinkles of black pigment on the barbs. I have raised many of them over the years and all have sold quickly. Google for some interesting reading. Wales, 1700s. Black.Red
    Badger, Silver or Gold = Black center with barbs being one of the shades from almost white to golden. (comes from the Black family)
    Greenwell = Either of the gold or silver badger with the black tips and sprinkles of black pigment on the barbs. ( also comes as full brothers and in my attempts to breed for them, I could not. Mother nature I'd say.

    Denny

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