My Thompson did fine for me till I broke the jaws, then I got a Traveler, and it did fine for a long time till I started trying to buy a vise to improve my tying. That didn't really work, as the tying skill is in the brain and fingers, not the vise. I do think the Nor-vise would be great for big flies where you do a lot of wrapping, but I'm sure those skilled in its use can tie small flies faster on it too.