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    Hatching Olive Variant
    Hook: Grip 14723BL #14
    Thread: Benecchi 12/0, black
    Abdomen: Peacock quill, stripped - coated with clear varnish
    Wing: Duck quill
    Thorax/veiling: Argentinean hair, dyed olive; arctic fox underfur, dyed orange - equal parts, in split thread
    Hackle: Hen, dark grey


    Video here - please view in HD, if able:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GdItHjr2Tw


    Cheers,
    Hans W
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    Hans,

    Very nice. One thing I noticed at 3:10 (and I'm not criticizing here, just making an observation) - after tying down the quill with 2 wraps and trimming, it appeared to slip a little (about 1/4 turn) at the tie-down. I have this happen with biots and material like stretch floss, but if I hold the body material back and make an additional wrap tight in front of the tie-down, it seems to lock it in place; don't know if it's because I'm not using enough tension on the initial 2 wraps, but it seems to alleviate the issue.


    Regards,
    Scott

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    Scott,

    Well spotted.
    Most materials I tie off get tied off with a 'U'-locking turn, which makes it bomb-proof on the initial thread wrap. The relatively flat&wide, and slippery, stripped quill does not allow this as easily, and this more conventional locking down shown in the clip included some operator error

    Btw - this was but one of four moments in the clip where there is some room for improvement. The Shadow knows...

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    Something I've noticed in a few of your patterns Hans, and I've just got to ask. Does the nationality of the hare matter? Is this a different material to what we know as hare?

    Cheers,
    A.

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    AlanB

    The materials list at the beginning of the video describes the thorax dubbing as Argentina Hare

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanB View Post
    Something I've noticed in a few of your patterns Hans, and I've just got to ask. Does the nationality of the hare matter? Is this a different material to what we know as hare?
    I doubt the nationality matters any, Alan, but here is the thing:

    Hares are not indigenous to South America, but have been introduced there by settlers from Europe, so the hares in Argentinia are Lepus capensis. So far, so normal.

    I call the material Argentinean Hare, as this is the name on the packet. I do not know whether it is actually hare, or some other base - the company who markets it, Swiss-CDC, is not telling. What I do know is that it has superb texture, it comes in some very useful colors, and I love tying with it.

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    Thats more or less what I thought. Just couldn't resist asking that way. I suppose that climate will have more effect than anything else, like "Coastal" deer hair.

    As yet I haven't got my hands on any Swiss CdC products but have heard lots of good things about it. Next time I travel back to civilisation I may try to pick some up.

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    Great job Hans!! Beautiful fly.
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    Hi Hans,

    I believe you know how I look upon your tying, so I hope you'll take this as a question and not as a critique.
    Scott P. wrote, "One thing I noticed at 3:10 (and I'm not criticizing here, just making an observation) - after tying down the quill with 2 wraps and trimming, it appeared to slip a little (about 1/4 turn) at the tie-down."
    Now when I viewed the video I noticed the same thing and wanted to ask: 1)Wouldn't an additional wrap in front of the butt end lock the quill so it doesn't spring back(as it does a little) and loosen up? And 2)Do you think that the type of thread you used, one that's flat multi-fiber, locks the material as well as a type like Uni-Thread given the same number of wraps used?
    Using that thread, wouldn't that quill have been locked in better if you had spun the thread, made 2 wraps on the quill and 1 wrap in front of it. Then you could have whipped finished(as you did) and allowed the thread to unspin and return to its 'flat' consistency. What do you think?


    Oh, I missed one of your posts above but I'm asking anyway, lol.

    Cheers,

    Allan
    Last edited by Allan; 12-19-2012 at 12:58 PM.

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