... for the record, my comments are in no way intended to refer to the Jay-Dave Hopper. Jay Buchner has a well deserved reputation as an outstanding fly angler and tier from the Intermountain West.

The problem I had all day long before posting here was doing the math. 1 grain is 1/7000 th of a pound. So 1 grain is 1/437 th of an ounce. So 2 grains is about 1/215 th of an ounce.

I can't even begin to imagine what weighs 1/215 th of an ounce. Maybe a few extra deer hairs on the pattern shown in my fish porn ?? Maybe the difference between a straight eye hook and a down eye hook ??

So it's not at all about the Jay-Dave Hopper. It's about reality. Flat water or ripping. Sure, in some situations that "splat" will have some importance. Maybe 1/215 th of an ounce worth ??

John