Thanks guys:

I will try some of the patterns. I like that one with the virtual nymph skin.

Part of the reason was I was floating the river in September and catching a few fish. When a couple of drift boats came down the river with guides. They were hammering the heck of the fish in spots I have never caught a fish. I asked the one guide what they were using and he said crawdads and worms. They were bait fishing. Why in the heck you would hire a guide to bait fish is beyond me. Darn, If that is the case I need to come up with some crawdad patterns to try.

Bill