Hey let's bury this. You are all right and there is much grey area here. mnklagoon said it right- yawn. This country is very polarized and it's sad. At our local fly shop, it's the same type semantic warfare and yet because the other person is a fly fisher we tend to listen and maybe see the other side and agree to disagree. Kind of like the old days if you will. Stay in the room and hash it out,compromise, and and move on and be friends. Thanks kindly, have a smooth day and tight lines. Michael J.