I tried Sandfly's technique last night--the result was far from the Orvis biminin tippet but perhaps I need more practice--a lot more practice! I really like these tippets, esp for large fish using fine tippets as they have inherent shock absorption. I do some night fishing for big 4-6 lb browns using small Elk Hair Caddis patterns and broke off lots of fish before using this type of tippet.