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    Been using the Petitjean bobbin for about 6 months now. I have dozens of other bobbins, but they all sit empty now.

    http://youtu.be/g_zs67JjZsE

    Adjustable thread tension (while wrapping!), fast threading, built in dubbing loop feature, perfectly balanced when spinning - this bobbin does it all!

    It's so quick to thread, you only need one bobbin - good thing - they're like fifty bucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heritage Angler View Post
    Been using the Petitjean bobbin for about 6 months now. I have dozens of other bobbins, but they all sit empty now.

    http://youtu.be/g_zs67JjZsE

    Adjustable thread tension (while wrapping!), fast threading, built in dubbing loop feature, perfectly balanced when spinning - this bobbin does it all!

    It's so quick to thread, you only need one bobbin - good thing - they're like fifty bucks.
    Thanks for that, I'd not heard from anyone else about the MP TT bobbin. Maybe I'll try one. It was Marc who introduced me to the split thread techniques, so I would expect his bobbin to be good for that. Still slightly afraid that I'll like it!
    Cheers,
    A.

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    Just to review,the use of bobbins; the use of a bobbin is a fairly new thing in the history of fly tying, Harry Darbee used none and a cloths pin to hold pressure when her let go of the thread. The first great American bobbin came from Frank Matarelli, is that not the benchmark?? Then from the man who invented the Bic Lighter came the J. Dorrin (today they go by Wishbone) and so on and so on!!! Everyone is trying to make one better than a Matarelli, for me a Matarelli works just fine. Fishin' Jimmy


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    Yes Fishin jimmy. I'm glad they got better than doing it by hand. I think it tends to be called progress?
    It's funny you mention Darbee. I think the senior Dette family were his contemporarys? Daughter Mary used to tie with a jeweler's vise. However, the last picture I saw of her was with a DynaKing vise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron haugh View Post
    Yes Fishin jimmy. I'm glad they got better than doing it by hand. I think it tends to be called progress?
    It's funny you mention Darbee. I think the senior Dette family were his contemporarys? Daughter Mary used to tie with a jeweler's vise. However, the last picture I saw of her was with a DynaKing vise.
    Byron Some of the great tier's still apply thread by hand especially silk and floss. Not a bad skill to have awe? MY wife still hangs the sheets on the line to dry. How can you improve the wind and fresh air? PS She uses those spring loaded clothes pins too!!
    To make things clear;one I talked about history of thread application Ref ! below. I complemented a great craftsman Frank Matarelli about a great design that has been in use for over 35 year and stood the test of time plus being copied my many. I use a Cermag Rite to spin hair. My personal problem with the Rite is it's open side and the problem of the thread at times when rewrapped upon the thread spool can get wrapped into the tension adjustment. This can be **** at times!!!
    Let us also think about the evolution of threads over the last 40 years. The Matarelli can handle all sizes and types. The newer designs of progress tend to be specialized for one type or use yes they they work for what they are intended.I think you as well as I,schouled give credit where credit is do.That credit is to Frank Matarelli designs.His bobbins and Whip finishers have stood the test of time and will probable be being used well into the 2100's and beyond. Ref 1 "Catskill Flytier" by Harry Darbee with Mac Francis. To answer the question about what Vises the Darbee"s and the Dette's used before Modern Vises,they were Thamas Vises with Darbee modifications. ref: "Catskill Flytier" Fishin' Jimmy
    Last edited by Fishin' Jimmy; 04-03-2012 at 11:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishin' Jimmy View Post
    Byron Some of the great tier's still apply thread by hand especially silk and floss. Not a bad skill to have awe? MY wife still hangs the sheets on the line to dry. How can you improve the wind and fresh air? PS She uses those spring loaded clothes pins too!!
    To make things clear;one I talked about history of thread application Ref ! below. I complemented a great craftsman Frank Matarelli about a great design that has been in use for over 35 year and stood the test of time plus being copied my many. I use a Cermag Rite to spin hair. My personal problem with the Rite is it's open side and the problem of the thread at times when rewrapped upon the thread spool can get wrapped into the tension adjustment. This can be **** at times!!!
    Let us also think about the evolution of threads over the last 40 years. The Matarelli can handle all sizes and types. The newer designs of progress tend to be specialized for one type or use yes they they work for what they are intended.I think you as well as I,schouled give credit where credit is do.That credit is to Frank Matarelli designs.His bobbins and Whip finishers have stood the test of time and will probable be being used well into the 2100's and beyond. Ref 1 "Catskill Flytier" by Harry Darbee with Mac Francis. To answer the question about what Vises the Darbee"s and the Dette's used before Modern Vises,they were Thamas Vises with Darbee modifications. ref: "Catskill Flytier" Fishin' Jimmy
    Fishin Jimmy. You have to be careful. If you read this article about the Dette's, you will find that Walt and Mary (the daughter) used a jeweler's vise (as I said) while Winnie (his wife) used a Darbee improved Thompson - the forerunner to the Xuron vise which I really like and have 3 of them.
    http://books.google.com/books?id=uEh... Dette&f=false
    Last edited by Byron haugh; 04-04-2012 at 03:14 AM.

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    I'm also a fan of the rite bobbin. I have two of them. Never thought of using it to wrap rods though. Thanks for the tip Denny.

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    Byron You need to correct yourself The Darbee's used Thomas Visies not Thompson vises as you have stated. The book are you referring to about the Dette's is not the same book that I am referring to, Mine came from one of the horses mouths, Harry Darbee who with Walt started tying flies together in the late 20's not from someone who met the Dette's at a much later date like like 30 years later. A lot can change over time. As I recall Harry said that Thomas went out of business and they finally got a beer bottler opener manufacture ( aka a church key ) to make vises for them. I am sure that when there was a vise shortage that they figured out a way or found some sort of vise that would work at that time. I also know that Walt and Harry made there own wax.Now that must have been 40 years before WONDER WAX. I think the Church Key Company must have made the vise I got in the late 70's from the Darbee's. By the way where did you get your vises from? That ought to be a real hoot watching you tye flies with them three vises! How do you do it? A rite bobbin in each hand and that fancy J vise bobbin between your toes on foot. By the way what foot do you use? I knew that J vise bobbin looked all twisted up and bent at strange angles, know I know why; so you can hold it with your toes, isn't that progress now?

    Fishin' Jimmy
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