Problem With a Knot

[cdpaul]

When i took a fly fishing lesson a while back, the guy showed a knot that he said to tie tippet to fly but used on a dry fly with the hook turned down. I cannot remember what the name is or how to tie it. Anyone know what knot i am talking about?

[Silver Creek]

Is it the improved Turle knot?

http://www.fintalk.com/fishing-knots...urle-knot.html

Could be the regular Turle knot also.

http://eaglespark.com/Knots/turle.htm

[Steven]

I think the Turle knot is the only knot that specifically needs to be tied with a down-eye hook.

[Chuck441]

I think the Turle knot is the only knot that specifically needs to be tied with a down-eye hook.

Steven- the Turle was a popular knot with Atlantic salmon fishermen in the "old days", and their flies were tied on TUE hooks.

Chuck

[cdpaul]

That looks like the knot. Thanks for the help

[Mato Kuwapi]

There are only two knots I use from tippet to fly... the Clinch Knot and the Duncan Loop or Uni Knot (for streamers). I'm not sure what the turle knot buys you other than it was designed for SKATING big flies (like Bombers) with heavy tippet on the surface for Atlantic Salmon where fishing below the surface is illegal. It's one of the weakest knots out there. There are better ones out there.

[Lotech]

You might find this site helpful. I use it often as a reminder how to tie the Perfection Loop.

http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/files/index.html

[cdpaul]

the guy that did my lesson said that if a clinch knot is used it will pull the dry fly under water. is this true?
CD

[Silver Creek]

No that is not true.

First of all to "pull" a fly underwater, the direction of the pull must be from under the water. In other words, the tippet and fly line must be sunk for this to happen so the direction of pull is down.

Secondly, a dry fly is most often fished "drag free" which means the tippet should not pull on the fly at all. No pull = can't pull down.

So wrong on both counts.

[Lotech]

I agree with Silver Creek. Especially if you use a floatant.