Tim I went and bought some Gamagatzu octapus circle hooks to try. Mustad makes a Demon Circle hook with the same bend as the Eagle claw with the exception that they have a very short shank, and it is a heavy wire hook. If a person was using them for clousers they would be fine, seeing how you only tie torwards the front anyway, but for anything with a body longer than a 1/4" long they would not work well. I picked up a package of the owner circle hooks, and they have alot of hook hanging down that might be a little hard to cover up.