Must Copper Johns Incorporate Epoxy?

[Andrew Mann]

I know what the "recipe" calls for, but when tying a Copper John, does one have to use epoxy, or can you get by without it?

Thanks

[Riverdancer]

Andrew,

Nah, you don't need epoxy. It makes the fly more durable, and the wingcase more realistic, but it's not necessary. In fact, I've recently all but thrown away my epoxy, and I use Loon's Knot Sense for the bubble.


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[OkieBass133]

It's not neccessary.

I use three coats of sally hanson's hard as nails.

mgj

[ducksterman]

Andrew,
Are you asking if it's ok to use nothing or if a substitute can be used?

I just coat the wing case with a couple coats of tying cement... Actually I use clear jighead lacquor because I had some around, gives the same shiny appearance as epoxy without all the fooling around

[lou t]

Unless it's an order, you can tie any pattern any way you want!

[This message has been edited by lou t (edited 10 March 2005).]

[Jackster]

Why not use epoxy? It looks good and amplifies the colors in the back.
Tie up a bunch then epoxy the whole group at one time.

[Andrew Mann]

Hey Guys,

First...can you use nothing? No epoxy...no cement...no whatever?

Second...I must say I know nothing of how to use epoxy - do I use the stuff at the hardware store, or do I need to visit a fly shop?

Thanks guys...your help is appreciated.

Andrew

I use Sally Hanson's Hard as Nails. The effect is very similar to epoxy and I can avoid mixing, guessing the right amount, etc.