Some of the conehead streamers I cast to trout weigh a lot more than the crappie jigs I cast for shad, and I bet either could be cast reasonable well with an ultralight spinning rod; same would probably hold true for some of the weighted stonefly nymphs in my box. I won't even get into saltwater flies, where some of them are so big I have to go up to 12-13wt rods just to get them moving through the air. Still, as far as I'm concerned, if you're casting with a flyrod, it's fly fishing; in these cases maybe a more dangerous (to this caster) form of flyfishing (I have been tempted to use one of my son's old batting helmets). I will draw the line at lobbing bait with a flyrod, something which I have done with success for baby tarpon that would have nothing to do with any flies we tried; that was fun, almost as much as learning how to use a cast net to gather bait.

Regards,
Scott