I'm all for homemade tools, so if see a 3" piece of wire for $6 that they say I need, I will certainly look for a way to make it myself first for under a dollar. If I can that's $5 I can spend on material I CAN'T make myself. For those of you that scoff at the 3pack Renzeti product for $18, I certainly none of you are tying on one of the 4 or 5 hundred vises you insist is 5 time better than a $100 vise. Just sayin'