I have tried all of it..epoxy will eventually turn color and the lead will break any seal once you bounce it off pavement a few times...even the eyes will split in half..its just a disposable fly and luckily very fast to tie up...the brainfades on the other site are all wannabees...most cant buy a fish but they talk about flys and boats a lot...younger with money but not much in the way of true fishing ability...most guys go there with false names and blow off steam and say what they cant say in real life...as a multiple Grand Slam fisherman I have to laugh
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