be careful with Loomis...they recently dropped all the guides off their program and moved shop...gone is the $50 return policy, its $100 now...also it can be done only once by the ORIGINAL owner so if you break it you will be ruined...they stopped making the rods I use altogether so I am screwed on this deal even though I have used GLX exclusively for over 15yrs and on their guide program, there is NO more guide program for anybody...I have 2 rods that nothing can be done and they refuse to even talk about it...they lost me forever and I think it will drive people away...this is not to bad mouth them so much but to let you know what can/will happen when you break one or need the guides fixed etc...I will sell you some of mine if you want...