It could be argued, with no small amount of validity, that what tiers get here, stateside, is tantamount to a sweat shop wage. I think most would be stunned at how well the flies from China are made. Some of the worlds best tiers have their pattern made in China. I buy bugs all the time...sometimes because the guy behind the counter helped me. Most of the time because try as I may, I cannot tie all the patterns I would like to use.