Thanks for all the great posts and advice. I am familiar with some of the Young reels and they are terrific! A tad too heavy for their size and the 3" pridex won't hold a dt4. Right now I am leaning towards a cfo iii or a hardy featherweight if i can find one for a decent price. if you have one i'd be interested in seeing pics/price. also have not ruled out other options... what else is out there?