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    So there have been a couple of things mentioned on here lately about both Alpaca wool and sculpins. I happen to have a rather large pile of alpaca because my girlfriend wants to learn to spin wool into yarn. Also, after a recent attempt at dying some feathers black for tying winged wets, I had a small tub of leftover dye. Now I had mixed the dye rather strong for dying the feathers and I really felt that there might be enough life left in it to do a decent job of dying a bit of the alpaca wool that I have laying about. Besides, I have never dyed alpaca and thought that this would be a great test to see how well it reacted with this particular brand of dye. So into the dye bath went a small hand full of the silver wool and the whole works went into the microwave for 2 minutes and then out onto the counter for the night. What was I planning to do with a bunch of black wool you ask? I have no idea, but I figured that I would deal with that when it became time...

    So after a day and a half on the counter i was very politely reminded that my little tub of dye was still sitting in the kitchen. I went in, pulled out the fiber, and drained all the dye out of it. It looked as black as coal. The next step was the sink, where I ran it under cold water and pressed all of the remaining dye out of the mix. Now I had a small hair ball that appeared to me to be a very brown color. I dried it off in a paper towel and left it under a lamp to dry. When I came back to check on it, this is what I had...



    What a great color! You'll have to excuse my horrid camera work, but it's a perfect, organic looking brown. Now what do I do with it? I decided to try my hand at tying a sculpin pattern since i have seen several requests on here for them. I honestly haven't seen a sculpin in years, ever since we used to catch them on table rock when I was a kid. They were small, mottled brown, had a very large head and pectoral fins, and were generally regarded as a pain in the butt. We used to call them "bait stealers" because we very rarely caught one but could usually tell when one was messing with our line because we would get our baits stripped repeatedly.

    Anyway, here is the sculpin that I came up with. I didn't use anything as a pattern but it's pretty basic so I am sure it's been done before. Just in case I have put the recipe at the bottom. Tell me what you think and let me know any suggestions that you might have. Also, what do you think I should do with the rest of my brown alpaca?






    Chris's alpaca sculpin
    Hook: gamakatsu B10s #6
    Eyes: medium lead eyes tied clouser stye
    Thread: 6/0 uni dark brown
    Body: brown alpaca
    Fins: brown india hen
    Tail: dark brown rabbit zonker hooked on the hook through the skin side and tied in fur side towards the point of the hook.

    Thanks for looking all,

    Fish
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    Very nice. I like the looks of that a lot.
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    Update:


    After some browsing online and learning a new technique I give you the second evolution of my alpaca sculpin. The area behind the fins on this one is still dubbed with full length hair and a dubbing loop, but the front portion is now stacked and trimmed like deer hair. This allows the head to be much fuller to better imitate the large head of a sculpin, and also allows the wool to better fill in around the eyes. I think that my next step is to make it 2 toned by putting some yellow wool on the underside of the head. First step, dyeing yellowish alpaca...




    Thanks all,

    Fish
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    Cool! I like it too!
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    Very nice! You know, you can get a really good brown dye from boiling acorns. Half fill a pot with acorns, cover with water, bring to a boil, and simmer for an hour or so. The tannins in the acorns act as a mordant and make the dye colour fast in wool. Should work well for alpaca wool too (I've dyed a small amount of alpaca in dye extracted from the new growth bark of a maple tree : gives a nice ginger). If you toss some rust in the acorn dye bath (i.e. take an old steel wool ball, let it sit in water and turn to rust) then this is supposed to give black rather than the dark brown. Walnuts work well too. I've not tried these dyes on feathers, but I would think they should work.

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    I like the second one. Your are much closer to the proportions of a real sculpin there. About one third of the length of a sculpin is the head with the fins being just a little shorter. You might want to trim the bottom of the head a little flatter both to look more realistic and to give more hook clearance. A bit of deer hair or bucktail as a tail under the wing would help discourage fouling of hook by the wing. Use hair that matches the bottom color of your head to effectively extend the belly of the fly. I googled sculpin pictures befrore I tried to design a fly and found the images helpfull
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    That second one looks real nice! Great tie!
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    I like the second one better too. That looks like a great material to have on hand!

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    Great flies! reminds me of some tadpole patterns I've tied by stacking and trimming wool (without the eyes and fins). Stacked wool, and now obviously Alpaca is a very distinctive look not achieved by any other material. Since you stacking it and not spinning it, it is much easier to layer different colors. (i.e. lighter on the bottom, dark streaks on top etc.) or even mottle in dark spots on the body. Of course this can be done easier with a permanant marker once trimmed but where's the fun in that?

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