Winston coming out with four and dropping the BIIx, Loomis bringing out their new wand and even Sage pushing closer to slower. Should be interesting. Winston, if rumors are correc,t will spread the price range from 2 to 7 hundred. A lot of talk about their US made $500 model. This info is all off the internet and not Winston,Sage or Loomis so take it for what it is worth.