Got to go out for a few hours this morning. We went to James Island state park which has a very nice pond with a lot of gills and LM. I was in this little cove where there were a lot of cattails and there I saw about a 3 ft needle noise garr. So I threw a yellow rubber legged wooly bugger at it and he hit it like a thunder strike and missed it. I let it sit for a second or two and then one hard strip and he hammered it the fight lasted only seconds because he broke me off like it was nothing. But WOW what a hit.