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    I'm pretty sure its gone!!! We have no other place to get tying materials here!
    Raiderhunter....Always In Search Of Water and Fish....

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    The Gander mountain in Bowling Green Ky has tons of fly tying stuff. That really surprised me since in the past they haven't had anything much. So I commented to one of the clerks that I was glad to see so much stuff and he told me they had gotten it all from another store. I can't swear to it, but I really believe he said it was a store in Texas. I'm sorry raiderhunter, that's bad news for you

    hNt
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    Hi Raiderhunter,

    As can be seen, the 140 is roughly equivalent to Unithread 6/0, and thus about twice as heavy as Danville's 6/0 and Unithread 8/0 (the Danville's 6/0 and Unithread 8/0 are roughly equivalent.)

    I use Unithread 6/0 for all #10 flies and larger, but only tie down to #4s or so, but once in a great while down to #2s, so your 140 should be good for those. Part of the time I also use it on #12s, but part of the time use Unithread 8/0 or Danville's 6/0 on #12s.

    The 210 might be good for deer hair spinning, and for large body flies.

    Regards,

    Gandolf

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    Uni is mostly Polyester thread, while Danville ans Waspi have mostly Nylon thread. 6/0 Polyester is 140 denier, while 6/0 Nylon is 70 denier.

    Polyester does not stretch when tension is applied to the thread, Nylon wil stretch. Nobody every really explaind about this 3/0, 6/0, 8/0 stuff. It was just presumed that the higher the aught the smaller the size of the thread, and along with the size dimenising so does the breaking strength of the thread.

    All threads are not created equal, there are various methods of construction of thread that depends on the material being used. Then there is the sealing of the thread (most thread is sealed with a wax or oil lubricant to stop chaffing of the surface, and to allow the thread to move smoothly through the materia) for sewing or weaving purposes.

    "If you do not understand how something came to be what it is, there is most likely way back long time ago a horse's *** being somehow connected to the current problem." ~Parnelli

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    210 denier is 210 denier and 140 denier is 140 denier. That is all you can be sure of.

    Why the flyfishing world has to complicate something the garment industry has been using successfully forever is beyond me. Compare denier to denier, throw in breaking strength info if you can find it and compare threads that way, not by aught sizes.

    Relating denier to aught sizes is a load, the same load that fly tying thread makers have been perpetuating since the fly tying industry began. How else do you explain different manufacturers calling the same aught size a different denier? They just won't give up the, "my 6/0 thread is thinner than your 6/0 thread" game and fly tyers fall for it all day long!

    The sooner the hobby and industry gives up the aught designations the better off we'll all be.

    Until that time all you can do is guess and pretend what you bought is 6/0 and 3/0 and if it works for you, size really doesn't matter!

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