Caught red-handed

[Panfisha]

Aha! Caught eating a foam hopper red-handed!
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/P5260252.jpg
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Also, as I was gearing up, I was hearing an odd squawking. I get to the water, and theres a baby deer that can't get back up the bank!
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/P5260238.jpg
But eventually, makes it up.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/P5260239.jpg
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[Silver Creek]

This is being caught red handed:

http://www.ashlandwi.com/articles/20...c285381154.txt

[zaxaca]

That really elevates my blood pressure. We had a similar event in one of our lakes north of Chattanooga. There must be a lot of other ways to make a living.

[Byron Zuehlsdorff]

I can handle panfisha's redhanded much better than the other.

[quivira kid]

Those are some cool under-water shots! Have you ever thought about trying some macro shots of what your hopper looks like from a fish's point of view?

[Steven]

This is being caught red handed:

http://www.ashlandwi.com/articles/20...c285381154.txt

Hmong or just your basic cheesehead?

[Silver Creek]

No info on that.

[maodiver]

Hmong or just your basic cheesehead?

Read this post and only thought was..."wow"

[Silver Creek]

I personally didn't take Steven's comment as racist given what I know about Hmong immigration into Wisconsin.

Unfortunately, the Hmong reference is based on past history. I happen to live in the the county (Marathon) with the highest percentage of Hmong residents. Our total population of Hmong is only second to Milwaukee, the largest city in Wisconsin. Their fish and game customs caused a lot of backlash initially.

"23.3% of Wisconsin's total Hmong population resides in Milwaukee County; 13.2% live in Marathon County. Three counties in Wisconsin have Hmong populations that exceed 2% of the total county population: Marathon (3.5%), Sheboygan (2.4%), and La Crosse (2.1%)."

I believe I am correct when I say that the Hmong outnumber all minorities in my county including Blacks and Hispanics. The initial Hmong immigration into our city was covered in CBS's 60 Minutes news program.

http://www.apl.wisc.edu/publications/HmongChartbook.pdf

Early on there was considerable poaching by the Hmong who harvested game in the same manner as they did in their native land. Most could not read or understand the the fishing and hunting regulations. They could not tell the difference between the various types of fish, and they kept everything they caught - over limit, undersized, and out of season. Fortunately that clash of cultures lasted only a few years.

That behavior is no longer the case. They have now been here long enough that they have an understanding of the fish and game rules. Most still do practice catch and keep though.

Unfortunately, whatever good will the Hmong gathered by obeying F&G laws was destroyed in a single event on November 21, 2004. A Hmong hunter, who trespassed onto private property, shot 8 white hunters, killing 6 and wounding 2.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139239,00.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chai_Vang

Then in 2007, a white hunter killed a Hmong hunter. Retaliation?

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/dis...huntercharged/

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...homicide_x.htm

"he Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources' Hmong liaison is Kou Xiong. He says in their homeland Hmong hunters were not acquainted with such concepts as bag limits, a hunting season, or privately owned property. In Wisconsin and Minnesota a hunting license comes with a book that spells out regulations. Kou Xiong says Wisconsin's regulations are published only in English and he does not anticipate a Hmong language version anytime soon."

Lest ye think I picking on the Hmong, I am 100% Asian.

[maodiver]

As you stated in your post, "this behavior is no longer the case". To make the snap observation about the race of a person, based solely on previous behavior of others, IS racist, whether a person believes it to be so or not. I have read more than my share of stories of game wardens, and court dockets, it's kinda a hobby or mine. Usually the people on the dock for Fish and Game violations are a cross-section of the local humanity. Including me, when I had a misunderstanding with the fish laws (It was a legitimate misunderstanding, I was cleared), and I am white.

Hmong people are here because they chose to support the US by sheltering and assisting our troops during the Vietnam War, thereby insuring that they would be exterminated by the North Vietnamese when we pulled out of their country. I think that rates them a little compasssion when dealing with the inevitable culture clashes. If the corner has been turned, and the Hmong people have learned new ways, then more power to them.

I still maintain that the rest of us need to come to the same understanding abou them, and not come to snap judgements, about any people. This is I believe the point of your post, as you effectively prove at with your citations. I just can't understand why you cite those sources, showing that only isolated recent incidents cause problems, and still not consider a snap judgement to be racist in nature?

MAO