Got to get back at this tube fly post. Anyone wanting a good site go to the expert--Tony Pagllei. site http:tubeflie.com Also GOOGLE Tube Flies for lots of info and patterns. No one has mentioned HOOK KEEPERS ---that smaller plastic tube that is attached to the rear of the tube that holds the hook in place. My best source a hospital nurse getting a used clear intervenus feeding tube. When the fish strikes it pulls the hook out and fly goes up the line. Ill nevr use anythingbut Qtips and my bike spoke---------BILL