My brother in law baought me a pack a few years ago for christmas as a gag gift. Dared me to try and tye on them. Got the magnifying lamp out and tied up a bunch for him. Still have the pack -- $19.99 for 50. Still have a couple left. Was going to tye more, but maybe just hang onto them for now, lol. Might be able to sell on ebay for more $, lol.