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    Default Must you wrap the two feathers and mixed colors on the para adams

    wing? Is the fly less effective without the additional color and second wing?

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    Do you mean for the hackle? I do sometimes, especially on larger (#12 and up) flies, but just as often only use grizzly hackle and the fish don't mind. I guess technically, it's not an Adams at that point; up to others to decide if that's important, I don't care.

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    You can use just one cree feather and get the same results form a brown and grizzly rabbed together.
    Ghost.

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    On parachute adams i do not use the brown. I only use a grizzly. I like it more because i think it looks more like a mosquito and i fish over mosquitos all the time

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    Hi Deepcreek,

    My answer to your question is a highly definitive "Yes" and "No." If someone were paying me to tie a Parachute Adams, I would feel obligated to tie those flies by the book, i.e. with brown and grizzly hackle. If I'm tying the flies for personal use or if I may give them to a friend, the hackle is purely my choice---all brown, all grizzly, mixed brown and grizzly or sky blue pink for that matter. I think that far too many fly tyers spend way too much time worrying about using exactly the right, by-the-book material and 99% of the time the fish could care less. Get the size and right and you will catch fish most of the time. 8T

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    I think that Eight Thumbs has a very important point here. So many tiers think that they must follow a fly recipe to the last detail or else the fly is useless. This is getting rediculous with the proliferation of similar, look-alike, materials these days. I know of one good tier who is into this to the point of breaking the family bank just to keep pace. If variations in materials makes a difference that is good, but beyond that it gets rediculous.

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    Many liberties are taken in fly tying. If you're tying flies for personal use, there are no (okay...maybe a few) rules.

    That said, you probably won't find many fly shops selling para Adams without mixed grizz/brown hackle. The dressing specifies both hackle colors, and I don't think it would be reasonable for a fly lacking one of the hackle colors to be commercially sold as a para Adams. I say this even though a variety of wing materials (calf, poly, Z-lon, etc) still seem to be accepted commercially.

    Tie a para Adams with only grizzly, another with only brown, and a third with both hackle colors. There will be a slight difference in appearance: lighter-, darker- and medium-toned, respectively. But the para Adams is still a general pattern and not imitative of any particular hatch. Unless your fishing over trout that are especially fond of a traditionally-tied para Adams, there's nothing to entirely rule out the potential of your single-color version; in some instances, it could more effective than the traditional tie. I think the errors many of us make in fly size, insect stage or presentation will often be more detrimental than a fly with "slightly off" hackle color.

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    1 grizzly varaiant should do the trick.

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