NOW ABOUT YOUR CASTING - Ladyfisher - March 29, 2010

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NOW ABOUT YOUR CASTING

Every once in a while something on our Bulletin Board will really stir up all sorts of thoughts, especially when someone else suggests a person might do better by taking casting lessons. Oh my. That can be a very tender issue.

[flyguy66]

Excellent essay on casting improvement, Deanna!

You covered the basic themes very well:

1. Quality 1:1 instruction - live and in person...in a developing progression over time. You can teach someone to cast well enough to fish in one lesson, but you cannot make them a "fly caster." I know many great casting instructors...famous even...who will tell you THEY can't. 3 of the best I have ever met teach the basic casts (overhead and roll to 30-40') and tell their students to practice and go fishing and have fun for a year or 2 and then come back if they want to learn more.

2. Practice - the "mechanism" you said you couldn't name many of us nowadays call "muscle memory," borrowing the term from kinesiology (sports science). It is simply repeating the same task enough times the same way to make it reflexive...almost subconscious. This ONLY comes with proper practice...repetition is the father of learning. But my father (an awesome tennis coach and corporate trainer) always said, "Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect." Admittedly, he was an intolerable perfectionist. LOL But I got the idea.

3. Versatility as a goal - without solid fundamentals, advanced casting is impossible. And advanced casting opens up a whole new world of enjoyment in one's fly fishing. It truly does...even if you are perfectly content to fish for bluegills on farm ponds for the rest of your life. One of the finest casters I know is a small stream trout specialist who often fishes streams you can lay a typical fly rod across. Try to make an accurate presentation to trout sipping tiny mayflies into an 8' wide gin clear 2' deep trout stream with high vegetation lining both banks in a typical 15mph Rocky Mountain breeze and you'll figure out quickly what accuracy and presentation are all about! But that same guy can (who is an FFF Master Casting Instructor) can hit a tailing Bone Fish on the nose at 90' with a 9wt bamboo fly rod, too. So he can fish anywhere, anytime he gets the opportunity. And fishing with him once in a 30+ mph wind, he taught me some 1-handed spey techniques with our Hexagraph 5wt rods that allowed us to keep fishing for trout on some beaver ponds at about 10k' in the Jemez mountains.

4. Different grips, styles, and techniques have different strengths and weaknesses - like tools in a toolbox. They are all good to have in your arsenal, but "if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." As an adaptive casting instructor, I encounter people all the time who have had to stop fly fishing because of an injury or degenerative condition. Universally, this is because they only knew one way to cast. Had they understood the 5 fundamental concepts of what makes a fly cast work, they probably could have figured out a new way to cast on their own. But in every case so far, I've been able to help them adapt their cast to a new, painless, effective fly cast within an hour.

5. It's not rocket science - you made it sound simple and attainable, and it is! Too many casting instructors and those who write about it fall into the trap of either trying to impress folks with what they know or simply not having the communication skills to take the complex and make it simple. Every physical action is actually very complex if you break it down. The human body is a very complicated machine! Add a fly rod, reel, line, leader, and fly, and it's even more complex. But making it all work is actually quite simple when you ignore all the BS. It is only when you get to the advanced stuff that you have to pay attention to one or more of those details.

Nowadays, it's very rare to read plain language casting advice that is worth a hoot. But yours is always excellent. So was Jim's. Thank you for your leadership over the years.

[Clay]

There are a couple of areas that I see where men in particular resent getting any kind of lessons. One is with firearms. I teach a basic NRA firearms class. Because they are men they think that they don't need instruction when it comes to these things. That somehow if you ask for help or are struggling you are less than a man. I see the same thing with casting. It's all a skill and a learned one at that. Yes some have more of a predisposition than others to hand eye coordinated types of activities, but if the best football players, tennis players and golfers in the world practice and get coaching, why do we see it as such a weakness?

It's really frustrating to go fishing with a man that brags about fly fishing for the last 20+ years and can not cast a 7 wt a true measured 40 feet. The rod goes all the way to the ground in the backcast and the forward cast goes all the way to the water. Don't dare make a casting suggestion, because he has been doing it for much longer than you have. You can't tell that I am sharing that one from personal experience can you?

Instead of buying the next wiz bang fly fishing gaget that you didn't know that you needed last week but have to have now that you read about it, go spend some money with a qualified coach and enjoy your season. Now is the perfect time to take a lesson. It's early in the season and you can reap the benefits all season long. Late in the season is not the time.

Jason Borger once told me at a fly fishing show that he practices casting almost daily. Why don't the rest of us. Some say that we practice when we fish. That is like saying that we should never run a drill for a sporting event but only do the activity when we play an actual game. This is an issue close to me.

Rick

[flyguy66]

Rick, it's worth mentioning that a good practice session only needs to last about 15-20 minutes. The main point for most anglers is to not allow the muscle memory of the basic mechanics to deteriorate.

[LadyFisher]

I absolutely agree on the 15 - 20 minutes to practice casting - AND practice something - not just see how far you can pitch the fly. Can you cast 4 tight loops in a row? In both directions (foreward and backcast) - how about a big fat loop?
This is called line control, can you make a right hand curve cast? and left hand curve cast? How about a puddle cast? Know what that one is?

[Ron Eagle Elk]

I do manage to get in some practice during the "off-season" by fishing a small year round stream. After years of getting by, I was forunate to find a couple casting instructors that really knew what they were doing and imprpoved my casting immensly. They were Deanna Travis and Jim Birkholm. They were never to busy to lend a hand to anyone who asked ( and, in some cases, to those who didn't ask). I do try to repay their kindness by passing on what they taught me.

REE

[ducksterman]

I once heard a golf instructor say she should be able to walk up to someone on the practice range and ask..."What are you working on?"

[Steve Molcsan]

Practice is a must and I agree it need not be very long.

Yesterday we were out in the park knocking dandelion blooms off from ten. twenty and then thirty five feet
with a yarn topped tippet..

There were some kids smoking and teasing us until they figured out just what we we doing and then
they all showed an interest...

Casting practice is very cool and relaxing..

My 2cents..

Good article Dee, Thanks!

Be safe

Steve

[hungNtree]

I really enjoyed your article LF. It got me to wondering if the way I practice is a good way or not. I've only been fly fishing for a year, so I've tried to practice alot and need to practice more. The only instruction I've had has came from Doug Swisher videos and a couple of trips with Jack and Warren. (which I enjoyed and appreciated greatly) I don't know of any certified instructors around here so I've had to come up with my own practice regimen.

I don't know if this is a good way or not, but when I practice I cast straight line cast, slack line cast, right reach cast, then left reach cast then repeat the 4. I try to make my cast, then pick up and do the next one without any false casting. Standing out in my yard I do fairly well, out on the water... well my username should give you the idea. When I try casting to target, I use the mulch around our trees in the yard for a target. The mulch surrounds the trees in about a foot or so in all directions. I figure if I can land my fly on that I'm doing very well and it's realistic, at least around here for fishing under the overhanging branches. (I DIDN"T say I could do it, just that I try. ) Anyway, that is how I practice and I just wondered if you think that is a good way or should I practice differently.

I probably shouldn't mention this, but I will anyway. I just use a piece of yarn for a fly and usually before the session is over I have a CAT fish after the fly. A 4 legged CAT fish that is. I'm sure that doesn't help my casting skills, but it sure adds another degree of difficulty trying to land a fly on target.

thanks,
hNt

PS, I'm not a proud manly man, I love this sport and want to learn all there is to know about it. What is a puddle cast?

[Steve Molcsan]

PS, I'm not a proud manly man, I love this sport and want to learn all there is to know about it. What is a puddle cast?

Also known as a pile cast..

This cast will allow you to have extra slack line for a longer drift.
Especially up front at the tippet and fly..

Start with a good low backcast and a high forward cast , on the forward stroke stop high, about 2 o'clock, and then drop your tip allowing the line and tippet to pile up at your target area.
I slow my forward motion a bit as well, as normal your rod tip should end up pointing directly at your target once your rod is lowered on the water.

There are some good Utube videos showing just how to accomplish the cast, then all you need to do is tune it to your own rhythm.
I am a firm believer when it come to casting to each his own...

Be safe


Steve