dudley--i actually own such a pair, and yep, they fit like a glove right to the top. guess they're not just for winter, huh? between the jacket and the neoprenes, looks like i'm going to be more confident and safe this spring!

Buddy--i'm about to go to a hiking store. they make curved belts for exactly the same reason. the belts even have handy attachment places for nets and staffs. i'll let you know how i do.

HA--tried one of the back belts and thought it rode up too high as well. i think it wanted to be next the clothing and not over the slipperier GorTex.

Thanks to one and all. many minds sure make short work of problems around here!