Correction...have 1 cork grip only, the select. Orvis seat is gloss black, has insert ans short fighting butt, insert will need to be drilled to your blank diam.. Other seat was Netcrafth has removable fighting butt, 2", matte black, 3 5/8" long, I.D. is .610, will throw in Orvis 16mm stripping guides and some black vinyl winding checks. Hope this helps. Matte seat has no insert. Both are new, never mounted. Please make 1 offer, I hate haggling.