Thanks everyone. I do use the alligator style clip on my fly turner. I got a package of them cheap at Harbor Freight a long time ago. I used Gorilla Glue to keep them locked into the styrofoam. I think the test clip would be great in a block of wood. I have seen people use these at fly tying demonstrations, and they look great. I had hoped to get some in a larger quantity, at a good price. Still these are better prices than the two you get at Radio Shack for 3 dollars and something.