I use a size 8 mustad 9672 streamer hook to tie a red eye squirrel tail clouser minnow. This is absolutely the best bream fly I have ever used. I have wentr bluegill fishing with this one fly and caught absolutely everything. And it is very simple and cheap to tie. Also I like cherynoble ants tied on a sz 10 mustad 9672 hook. I have to leave the colors off due to time of year and locations.