Jungle Cock

[fishngene]

Does anyone have a chart showing what size jungle cock nails are used for what size flies?

[kbproctor]

I've never heard of such a critter. Doesn't mean that there isn't one, just hat I have never heard of one.

I have a package of each size and use the ones that look right.

[Normand]

i also use the size that looks right

[Normand]

i think fishngene is asking for a size of jungle cock feather to use with what size hook, not if they are endangered or how long it takes to grow one.

have we lost sight of what is the actual question?

[Wes]

if it's any help here's a salmon fly proportion chart.
http://www.skogmus.no/innhold/jf/MSO...oportions.html

[kbproctor]

if it's any help here's a salmon fly proportion chart.
http://www.skogmus.no/innhold/jf/MSO...oportions.html

That is going to be fairly close for the old streamers and wets, too, if you use teh proportion of the cheek to hook, I would think.

[kbproctor]

Sully, by "critter" I meant "chart". I wasn't very clear.

Actually, I went and did some searching and found that the birds do not need to be killed for these feathers at all. They are molted once a year, I think it was. Of course, if you want a neck, the bird is toast. I would be happy to feed someone's bird for a year or so for teh feathers that fell off.

I also found that some folks have had to go to extreme measures to prove the origins of JC nails used on salmon flies they have tied for export. That could be difficult to do with a 10 pack of nails from the local fly shop.

[Sully]

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[aged_sage]

kb:

Better yet, just pluck the feathers when you need them and let the bird start growing a new one. Have you ever tried to collect molted feathers of captive raised birds? Me thinks not!

Cheers,
Frank