Well, I managed to thoroughly tick off a junk dealer that thinks he has bamboo gold in 2 rods and a stripped tip section. No guides at all on one rod, when you pulled to separate the sections the lower ferrule separated from the blank. The other rod was repairable but had loose wraps and ferrules. Both old Japanese rods. No breaks in either rod, though. The tip section had nothing on it other than a few bits of thread, not even the male end of the ferrule.

When I offered him $10 for the lot, he threw me out of the store.